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College is a reward for surviving high school. – Judd Apatow

Let’s face the facts. A college degree is not as valuable as it used to be.

Many folks are landing starting salaries well below what it cost them to get that required degree before starting that job that pays less than what it cost to go to school to qualify for the job in the first place.  

According to PayScale, the typical college graduate with zero to five years of experience is raking in $48,400.

The National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE) states that average starting salary for graduates is about $50,004. So what does that say about paying $100,000 for that creative writing degree? That it is overpriced.

Let’s get down to brace tacks.

HOW MUCH MORE IS COLLEGE TODAY?

The price of college has now outpaced inflation.

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The average yearly cost of 4-year public college cost from 1971-2016:

2016: $20,967

1971: 8,734

140.1% increase in college costs

During that same period of time wages decreased by 5.4% over those 45 years.

You read that right. Wages actually went DOWN instead of UP with a college degree in your hand.

See my post College Alternatives that could save you $100,000

WHAT IS THE PRICE OF COLLEGE VS THE VALUE OF YOUR EDUCATION?

After you get that degree, then you have go out and get that coveted job. You want a great starting salary, but most employers will tell you they cannot quantify your knowledge but so much.

Really?

Cause college are sure about to slap a price tag on getting that knowledge.

Why not offer the same salary as the cost of the degree?

For instance, if you pay $45,000 for your sociology degree, then that would be your starting salary.

Let’s think about that for a second.

What if colleges and employers printed the cost of degree and payment for that degree? Then you would see something like this:

Petroleum/Mechanical Engineering: Degree cost and starting salary $90,000.

Psychology: Degree cost and starting salary $47,000.

That would alleviate a lot of stress and salary negotiations right there.

THE MOST EXPENSIVE DEGREES ON THE PLANET

“A university is just a group of buildings gathered around a library.” ― Shelby Foote

Education is an asset. And investing a great deal of money in a degree doesn’t necessarily guarantee a first-class education. However, it can alter the trajectory of your life if you are able to parlay all those late nights writing papers into some serious coin.

As of 2019, Harvey Mudd College has taken the crown for the most expensive college in the world costing students approximately $57,401 for the upcoming 2019/2020 academic school year.

If we time that by four, which is being nice considering the average college kid is graduation in 5-6 years, then we get a mind-blowing $229,604!

For some perspective, if we invest that money instead over four years and let it ride, then after 30 years with an 8% return you would have $2,310,426.27! Yes, those four years cost you over $2 MILLION!

You literally could have used your college savings and invested every penny in the stock market and gotten a higher return than what many will get after 10 years of drudgery repaying that $200,000.

It gets even more expensive if your kid starts in at the top and goes to a private school from K-12. This could cost you even more and the losses start to really pile up!

Say those adolescent years are spent in some swanky private school at $50,000 a year. Over the course of 13 years, you would have paid $650,000! Add that $229,604 and you are staring at education bills of almost $900,000!

I would take a check for $900,000 at the age of 22 any day of the week over going to fancy private schools for 17 years!

And just in case you were wondering.

If you invest that $50,000 private school money over 13 years in the stock market, you would have $1,160,746.02 with an 8% return. And add in four years of college, that would net you $1,822,512.19.

Going to public school isn’t looking so bad now is it?

Here are some of the most expensive colleges in the United States and the world.

These 12 colleges are currently the most expensive in the United States:

12. Duke University (18)
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $55,960

11. Bucknell University
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,092

10. University of Southern California
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,225

9. Tufts University
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,382

8. Amherst College
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,426

7. Franklin and Marshall College
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,550

6. Landmark College
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,800

5. Harvey Mudd College
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,876

4. Trinity College
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,910

3. Vassar College
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $56,960

2. University of Chicago
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $57,006

1. Columbia University
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $59, 430

These 11 colleges are currently the most expensive in the world:

11. Yale University
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $49,480

10. UCL (University College London)
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: £9,250 or $12,080 USD

9. ETH Zurich (Switzerland)
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: CHF 1,298 (~US$1,310)

8. University of Chicago
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $57,006

7. Princeton University
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $43,450

6. California Institute of Technology
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $45,390

5. University of Oxford
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: £9,250 or $12,080 USD

4. Harvard University
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $46,340

3. University of Cambridge UK (United Kingdom)
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: £9,250 or $12,080 USD

2. Stanford University
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $46,320

1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2018-19 Tuition & Fees: $47,704

Those are expensive colleges.

Did you know you could go to university cheaper abroad?

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For some perspective on exactly how expensive colleges are in the United States, as an international student you could go to the same college as Prince William and Duchess Kate Middleton for less than it costs to go to Harvard, Yale, or Princeton! The cost is £20,770 or $27,125 USD. That is what it would cost annually to attend the University of St Andrews.

NOT ALL DEGREES ARE CREATED EQUAL

Education is not an equalizer. If you go to the same college as a science nerd majoring in Math, while you are majoring in philosophy, you both are not on equal footing by a long shot.

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In light of the recent college bribery scandal, let’s talk top-tier universities.

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If you were to get an acceptance into Yale or Duke University, congrats to you, as you are among the college elite. However, don’t break out the celebratory champagne just yet.

Although you and another student may be paying the same amount to go Duke, if you major in a different field, then that degree can easily eclipse yours.

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Put it this way. You and another student both pay $48,000 a year over four years. That is $192,000. You become an engineer raking in big bucks right after grad by getting a starting salary of $95,000. Your friend on the other hand, let’s call him Joe, majored in piano or violin and is only able to get a starting salary as a backing musician for $38,000.  

That is a difference of $57,000 a year.

You ask how is that so? We went to the same university. We paid the same amount.

Yes, but your degree is in higher demand than Joe’s.

Then you may ask yourself: Well why didn’t Joe pick a more in demand degree? And therein lies the rub.

Joe is a skilled musician. That is where his passion and interest lie. Even if he would have seen a brochure, which there aren’t any in wide circulation on any college campuses that I have ever been to, showing the starting salaries of majors he still would have chosen music.

The playing field of majors is not level. Therefore, you need to decide before you even step foot on a college campus what you want to be.

This is a small list of what employers are paying for college majors.

My suggestion is that you do a search on what it costs and what it pays to be a lawyer, accountant, doctor, or violinist. When you know what your options are, then you can at least make an informed decision.

Money advice I got from John Legend

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“It’s not wrong to be afraid.” John Legend

John Legend is a Grammy and Oscar Award winning musician. The singer-songwriter won his first Grammy Award with 2004’s Get Lifted. The album went platinum, thanks in large part to his hit single “Ordinary People.”

He was a child piano prodigy. He skipped two grades and graduated from high school at 16.

Legend stated he was offered admission into Harvard University and scholarships to Georgetown University and Morehouse College. Ultimately, he chose to go to the University of Pennsylvania, where he studied English with an emphasis on African American literature.

He sang in the church choir (which he joined at 7 and was leading it by 11), was head of the music department in his church, served as a music director in college and also worked as a wedding singer.

He has done numerous interviews in his career and much of the information in this post comes from them. I discuss multiple ones in this post.

John has an estimated net worth of $40 million dollars.

He did an interview with Katherine Schwarzenegger for her 2014 book I Just Graduated… Now What?: Honest Answers from Those Who Have Been There. You may recognize the last name. Yes, she is the daughter of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver (Kennedy).

For more information on her famous father, you can read my post How Arnold Schwarzenegger Totally Recalls making $20 million-dollar paychecks.

How Arnold Schwarzenegger Totally Recalls making $20 million-dollar paychecks

His advice in that book inspired me to work harder to pay off all my credit card debt and start massively saving. See my post How Millennial Money inspired me to start saving $13, 333.06 a year 

Here is some of what he had to say. (Not every word or quote is from her book, but numerous interviews) I highlight his advice in her book with KES (Ms. Schwarzenegger’s initials).  There they are (KES) on the board right behind her.

I really liked this book. So, I tweeted Ms. Schwarzenegger and told her so. She gave me a like. Thanks! I appreciated that. 👍😊

NO OVERNIGHT CELEBRITY

“I had followed the path that the Penn graduate was supposed to take, but I didn’t fall in love.” – John Legend

KES: John directed theater productions in school and performed in talent shows. He wanted to be a big star, but did not know the steps to get there. John said he had a fire in his belly.  No one was coming along to make him a star as he learned along the way. John had to put together a demo and have it produced by the right people. Anything that he was doing that wasn’t music, was going to be temporary.

After graduation, he switched gears (gave into peer pressure) and starting worked for the prestigious Boston Consulting Group, but would also perform in nightclubs in New York City.

Although, music is his first love, he worked a safe corporate job for three years while hustling to get his music off the ground. He received lots of rejections, but continued to side hustle as a musician playing anywhere he could.

DON’T BE AFRAID TO FAIL 

Fear of failure stops too many people from doing things. It’s not wrong to be afraid, but you have to fight through fear to overcome it.” – John Legend quoted as saying this in Katherine’s book (KES)

Many of his friends became bankers and consultants so he did too. However, after following in their footsteps he found that was not meant for him. He was not cut out to be a consultant.

“I couldn’t shake my passion for music.” – John Legend

He made savvy moves to make his dream a reality. During the day he did PowerPoint presentations, but at night he wrote and performed music.

Fun Fact: While in college, Legend was introduced to Lauryn Hill by a friend. He played piano on Lauryn Hill’s “Everything Is Everything.” That was his first album appearance.

WHY SIDE HUSTLE?

“I needed money. I lived in New York and had to pay my rent.”

KES: John didn’t have any financial support from his parents and he had student loans to pay back. He found that you could make good money in consulting.

He was rejected by all major labels. All the heads of these labels all turned him down.

KES: John paid his own way through college, racking up tons of student loans in the process. He had to deal with them after graduating college. He rolled the dice, took chances, and worked his butt off to follow his dreams, and never lost faith along the way.

Basically, he moonlighted his way to a music career.

BREAKTHROUGH

Havin’ money’s not everything, not havin’ it is. – Kanye West

John’s big break came out of relationships he had made. A college roommate (which was Kanye’s cousin) introduced John to a music producer in Chicago named Kanye West.

KES: John would go to the studio straight from worked dressed in his business attire. He said he definitely stood out from the way everyone else was dressed in the studio. He ended up getting a manager and a lawyer that were also well-connected. This was in 2002.

If you want to be treated like an adult, you have to dress like one. – Diane Kruger (actress and star of National Treasure) See my post on the film. 

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Through his collaboration with Yeezy, he was able to parlay that into a record deal. His first album was produced by Kanye. He got a deal with Sony.

That album would go on to earn eight Grammy nominations.

Years of toiling and hard work had paid off. It just goes to show, it’s not only what you know, it’s who you know. If you want to be taken serious, then you have to act like you do.

FIRST BIG PAYDAY

“When I got my first big check, I paid [my college loans] off. No more debt!” – John Legend

As you can see, his biggest earnings are from his music. It goes to show that passion can pay off big!

KES: John quit his job and started working part-time so he could focus more on his music. He struggled for a while, living on credit cards and skating by. Then he started making money touring with Kanye. In 2004, he got a deal with Columbia Records and when that happened he didn’t have to worry about money anymore. As soon as he got my record deal, he paid off all his student loans and credit card debt. He said no one ever told him about college loan debt and how to manage it.

Preaching to the choir here with not knowing how to manage debt. And in his case, that is literally speaking as he was in the church choir singing, which would become his meal ticket.

INVESTMENTS

“I bought a place [in Manhattan]. I just bought some art—some abstract stuff—and some collages are coming too. A friend who works at MoMA is like my art consultant. I just wanted nice stuff that would hold value.” – John Legend

You should always invest and buy things that go up in value. It just makes sense.

PASSION MAKES A GRAMMY WINNER

“But that cool detachment only gets you so far. Passion gets you a lot further. It makes you a better entrepreneur, a better leader, a better philanthropist, a better friend, a better lover.” – John Legend

He chose to pursue his interest. This made him his fortune. I call it the House that was built on a piano. 😉

Just FYI: John Legend is a 10-time Grammy Award winner. He won an Oscar for the song Glory in the film Selma.