If you are part of the financial blog-sphere, then you have heard of a personal finance blogger by the name of Mr. Money Mustache (MMM for short).
He retired early with a net worth of $800,000.
He his famous for his no nonsense approach to cutting out buying crap and not being a Sucka Consumer. I’ll give you an example.
Physical health FIRST: whole system will only perform well if you place its wellbeing first, before anything else. Salads and barbells every day, no goddamned excuses.
Being frugal and fit, as MMM shows, has its advantages. Let’s explore this further.
1. Being frugal could turn you into a millionaire sooner than you think
While reading up on real estate, I came a cross the website Bigger Pockets and also wrote a blog post on them.
One of the co-hosts on Bigger Pockets is Brandon Turner, is an active real estate investor and entrepreneur, stated he brown bagged his lunch to work for 10 years and was able to become a millionaire by putting all his discretionary cash to work investing in real estate instead of happy hours.
2. Simple MATH is the answer
If you can add and subtract, then basically you have the skills to manage your money. Do some million-dollar math. What will it take to make the Almighty Dollar one million times? Sell 100,000 books at $10 a pop. Boom. One million.
Invest $100,000 in an index fund and let it ride for 30 years at an 8 percent return you’ve got your million bucks right there.
Basically, MMM puts it best.
And dozens of ten-dollar bills start to add up to real money pretty quickly, which is something most people donโt realize. The vast majority of wealthy people are the ones who have figured out that a millionaire is made ten bucks at a time.
-Mr. Money Mustache
3. Incomes are not as important as spending habits
Most people are pretty bad at math, even simple math unfortunately.
That partially why so many people are in debt up to their necks. If a credit card company gives you a $35,000 credit line and you are only pulling down $40,000 a year, then you can start to see right there that if you max that sucker out, you will have given away 88 percent of your income. Screw that!
On the opposite end of the income spectrum, an Amazon engineer making $175,000 a year or a Goldman Sachs investment banker making $350,000 a year that likes to tip strippers in $100’s and order $1500 bottle service could blow through a wade of cash in a few months of partying. A coke head with a nasty drug habit could snort millions and lose everything in one crazy summer.
When Google engineers are crying on the news about not being able to afford housing in San Francisco while making $200,000 a year, then something is seriously wrong out here.
They then must decide HOW FRUGAL they are willing to be to change their situation. Living in shared housing with 8 other people, living inside of a moving van, or renting a garage apartment to invest upwards of 60 percent of your income are just a few of the things you will have to consider.
It is not the size of you paycheck that matters, it is what you do with it that counts.
If you ever read that book, Your Money Or Your Life, then you know one of the authors favorite lines was yelling, “how big is yours?” He was talking about your paycheck. This guy worked on Wall St. and still managed to retire early while many folks he saw making millions were living paycheck-to-paycheck.
If you make a million, but spend one million and one dollar, sorry to break this to you, but you are still broke. It is not enough to live at your means, you must live below your means in order to have money to save and invest.
Most high-income people are still within just a few paychecks of insolvency, because it is possible to blow almost any paycheck, simply by adding or upgrading more cars, houses, and vacations.
-Mr. Money Mustache
Therefore, I urge you to slash expenses, take stock of what you have and be grateful.
Focus more on the giving than getting.
Aim at saving 20 percent or more of your income.
If you want to retire early, you are going to have to aim at saving 50-70 percent or more.
Live like it will all end tomorrow, but save like you are going to live forever. You got that? You have to save.
Who wants to be the guy living in a $500,000 home that can only afford to fill it with Christmas trees because he can’t afford furniture?
So get out there and save!!! no goddamned excuses.
Cause living in a rat infested motel is not an option because when the lights go out its a roach motel and their lease is permanent.
All I am asking is for you to do what most people won’t: Save money instead of spending it.
“We gonna win more. We gonna live more. We the best.” – DJ Khaled
I know what you’re thinking. How do you accidentally get wealthy on purpose. Well guess what? You’re about to find out.
This latest blogger interview comes from Dave of Accidental FIRE.
I reached out to him after seeing his name on like 20,000 blogs.
Here’s how it went down because as you know it goes down in the DM. ๐คฃ
I sent this tweet out after seeing a post Dave published. I thought it had an inspiring title. So I retweeted it.
To my surprise, Dave responded. ๐ฎ
So I responded to Dave. ๐
That’s when he told me to hit him up in the DM! ๐
So yes ladies and gents, this post happened from a tweet!
He seems as passionate about writing and blogging as I do!
I was born for this, born for this It’s who I am, how could I forget? – Macklemore
Let’s get right down to it! It goes down in the DM!!! It goes down. It goes down!!! ๐ Yo Gotti – Down In The DM
The blog and the interview was done by Miriam of Greenbacks Magnet, but those lyrics up top are by Yo Gotti.
INTRODUCING
Welcome aboard all! All are welcome!
Welcome to Greenbacks Magnet. Home of attracting Greenbacks like Magnets! ๐คฃCan I help you find financial freedom?
I want to thank you all for coming along this financial journey with me as I study the self-made and do blog interviews. You know, you are all my copilot’s on this magic carpet ride.
In the illustrious words of #Aladdin Genie, “You ain’t never ever had a friend like meeeee!!!”๐คฃ
Let’s Meet Dave!!!
I actually met Dave at FinCon. He was positive and had a great attitude. That was the thing I remember about him most. He may not have known it but I thought to myself now there’s someone I would not mind working with. ๐ค
And here we are today.
Another day, another breath (another breath) Been chasing dreams, but I never slept (I never slept) – Glorious Macklemore featuring Skylar Grey
I told Dave I thought he was one of the hardest working men in the blog business. I said that because I would go to read a post by a personal finance blogger and he would have already been there and posted the very first comment!
I couldn’t keep up with him! And I work HARD!!!
I remember seeing a comment on one blog post he did and he said, “Oh get out the popcorn. I see an interesting comments section coming on this post.”
Yep, that’s Dave.
What it felt like to meet Dave at FinCon.
He’s a genuine guy. ๐
Let’s talk about how Dave caught on financial FIRE!
DAVE STARTS A FINANCIAL FIRE BLOG
GBM: Hey Dave!! You should let me interview you for the blog! 5 questions tops! If it will get this ball rolling. I know you’re busy, but I promise to keep it short and snappy. Scouts honor. ๐
Dave: Hey Miriam, I will have to ponder these and will get back to you, interesting questions ๐
What is FIRE? It stands for Financial Independence Retire Early.
There are tons of blogs out there on the topic.
I even wrote a post called How do you play with FIRE?
WHAT IS FIRE?
According to Camp Fire Finance, the elevator pitch for FIRE is this, โWhen your investments generate enough money to cover your annual expenses youโre financially independent (FI). At that point work is optional and you can retire early (RE) if you want to.โ
Basically, you have more than enough money coming in to stop working. Usually, this requires anywhere from $1 million to $5 million dollars depending on what you want or need to spend to maintain your lifestyle or that of the one you dream of having.
For example, if you decide you want to withdraw at least $80,000 a year, you would need to have a $2-million-dollar portfolio.
This is how I visualize myself on FIRE! ๐๐
Jennifer Lawrence in the Hunger Games was serving them eye candy with that dress. It was literally ON FIRE!!!
To stay on theme, I will pick this image for Dave. ๐
Let’s get to the interview. ๐
Dave: Hey Miriam, here are my responses.
1. How did you come up with your blog name?
I named my blog Accidental FIRE because I reached FI accidentally – meaning I wasn’t intentionally trying to get to a point where I didn’t have to work anymore. I just wanted as much of a nest egg as I could get because I come from a background and family that has no money. So it was about building security in my life. But when I discovered the 4% etc it then accidentally became about working less too.
Good for you! ๐
It’s great to have goals. I call that a win!
GBM Miriam: Some people may think building a nest egg from the ground up is impossible. I say personal finance is not rocket science. It is about earning, saving, and consistency.
Thanks for keeping it ๐ฏand sharing that.
2. Any favorite finance books? What’s on your nightstand?
My favorite financial book is “The Simple Path To wealth” by JL Collins because it does the best job of boiling the basics down to make a FI path, well, simple. On my nightstand now are two books “War Letters: Extraordinary Correspondence from American Wars”, and “The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure”. Also my eyeglasses and a candle.
Well ok โThat’s some good reading material right there. ๐
GBM Miriam: I am actually reading The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins right now! I guess great minds think alike! ๐
This was me in school. ๐
Even today, if I’m not reading, I like to exercise. ๐คฃ I like to keep busy. No idle hands.
I still read comic books too! My favorite is Red Sonja.
Fun Fact: The Marvel comic Red Sonja was turned into a film in 1985 starring one of my favorite self-made people to quote Arnold Schwarzenegger.
โDonโt focus on getting to $1 million; focus on getting to $2 million.โ โ Arnold Schwarzenegger
I heard that little gem when Mr. Schwarzenegger was doing a radio interview.
I’ve learned to make every dollar count. Focus on turning every $1 into $2. Instead of $1 million focus on $2 million. I learned that from @Schwarzenegger ๐
Just my 2 cents. Smooches ๐
Did this book inspire this post I wonder? ๐ค
3. What’s the most interesting thing about you that we wouldn’t learn from your resume?
I’m a pretty good juggler.
Awesome! ๐That’s pretty cool.
4. What’s in your wallet? How did you start building wealth?
If you mean what kind of credit card I have a US Bank VISA that gives great reward points and that I use for everything. I started building wealth as soon as I started working when I was 16, I’ve always spent less than I made. But I started supercharging my wealth-building after reading a copy of Money magazine in 1995 and putting money in index funds.
Nice! ๐
GBM Miriam: I actually started after reading a Kiplinger magazine around 2007. I also put my money in index funds like the VFINX 500 index with Vanguard, which tracks an index like the S&P 500.
I try to save and invest over 40% of my income.
Although it is now closed to new investors you can put money into the VTSAX which is 80% comprised of the 500 largest companies in the United States.
Your story on how you grew up and got started building wealth reminds me of the song Glorious from Macklemore.
I feel glorious, glorious Got a chance to start again!
I loved it in the Crazy Rich Asians movie trailer.
5. What 80’s film best describes your relationship with money or the lifestyle you would like to have?
I guess I’d pick “Stand By Me” It doesn’t have much to do with money but I love the movie because it reminds me of my childhood – being in a small pack of super close friends and exploring and maybe sometimes getting into thins we shouldn’t have. And I’m still friends with all those guys today so it’s fun to reminisce about when we were younger and our knees didn’t hurt so much!
I hear you! ๐
Love that movie! It had some inspiring words. Love the 80’s. ๐
You know? Dialogue like this. ๐คฃ
GBM Miriam: Seriously, though that film makes me tear up at the end every time. A great coming of age story about friendship.
Why we blog about finances?
I’ll let Skylar Grey answer that:
We gon’ be alright, put that on my life When I open my eyes, hope I see you shine Now I feel glorious, glorious I feel glorious, glorious
Well, we have come to the end of this interview. Hope you had fun.
Here at Greenbacks Magnet we like to have fun. And I had a blast!!!
GBM Miriam: Thank you Dave for stopping by!! I sure hope we will see each other again at the next money meets media conference as FinCon19 is coming to DC! But if not, there is always Twitter and DM’s. ๐
I bid you all farewell. Until we meet or tweet again.
I will give you one of my farewell messages that I tweet as a show of my appreciate for you hanging out with me here at Greenbacks Magnet.
Hope you had fun with me today and my Lipstick confessions. I must bid you all a good night. And go back to my regular identity. May the 80s live on forever in our hearts. Smooches๐ Greenbacks Magnet
If the goal is to have financial freedom, then it is worth
the sacrifice.
I have been reading nonstop about personal finance. It has
been a heck of a ride. The roller-coaster of emotions that goes along with it
is not so scary when you focus purely on the numbers.
Most experts will say to save 10-20% of your income, but
that still means working a 30+ career until being free. I wanted to get off the
hamster wheel earlier or at least whenever I wanted instead of when only I
could.
I thought wouldnโt it be great to focus on getting out of
the rat race sooner. Why not just focus on a certain time period? I picked 10 years because that is a good
chunk of time for most people to get themselves in the head space to understand
that discipline is in order to achieve this lofty goal.
I just narrowed down my focus to only looking for
information pertaining to how to become FI in a decade.
Here is what I found along the way.
THINK 10
They say to think big. So, I say think 10.
I began to look for information on being financially free.
For instance, saving 50% of your income and getting a return
of 5% or more could net you over $500,000 and allow you to become FI in 15
years. Not bad.
If your living expenses are under $40k a year, then you can
make that work for you. Therefore, the more you spend, then the more you have
to save. It is just that simple.
Saving 65% of your income with a return of 7% or more could
net you over $600,000 and allow you to become FI in about 11 years.
Even better, saving 70% your income with a return of 7% or
more could net you over $700,000 and allow you to become FI in less than 10
years. Yahtzee!
I found a savings rate early retirement chart on Clark Howardโs website. He generally decreased the number of working years by four once you hit a 40% savings rate.
TAKE YEARS OFF THE RETIREMENT SCHEDULE
After, I did my research, I also found the following:
By saving 60% of your income, you can take 1
year and 6 months off every time you work 1 year.
By saving 70% of your income, you can take 2
years and 4 months off every time you work 1 year.
By saving 80% of your income, you can take 4
years off every time you work 1 year.
By saving 90% of your income, you can take 9
years off every time you work 1 year.
This is what Jacob Lund Fisker details in his book Early
Retirement Extreme.
Saving a high percentage of your income is literally
allowing you to sock away years of retirement income at a faster rate.
That would mean based on the above statements, the
following:
Saving 60% of your income for 7 years, allows you to knock 11.2 years off your retirement schedule.
Saving 70% of your income for 7 years, allows you to knock 16.8 years off your retirement schedule.
Saving 80% of your income for 7 years, allows you to knock 28.7 years off your retirement schedule.
This would mean retiring in your 30s or 40s as opposed to
your 50s or 60s. However, working is relative. If you truly have something that
you enjoy doing, then it is not an issue. FI is about finding work or
activities that you want to do without having to worry about punching a clock
and getting paid.
WHAT IS FI?
It is the ability to make work optional.
Your assets are now generating enough cash flow for you to
exit stage left out of the workforce.
I found this great chart that defines it eloquently.
HOW AND WHERE TO SAVE
Unfortunately, it is not enough just to save, but to have a
target.
Most reading I have done on FI includes putting money in
index funds, taxable accounts, savings, checking, and money market accounts,
For example, J.P. Livingston of TheMoneyHabit says she was saving about 70% of her income and then split that up into different categories.
Of that 70% of her income, she put 60% in savings and the
remaining 40% into investing.
A place like the Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund
(VTSMX) or EFT (VTI) should work for you just fine.
All this means that you must not only invest, but put a high
portion of your income aside to actually be able to hit the eject button on
your job. After all, you need income to live off of and investments typically
come with rules like you are unable to withdraw any funds before age 55 to 59 ยฝ.
I continually read about those that have retired early and
reached financial independence. The common denominator is this: savings.
What can I tweak? How can I do better? I always strive for
abundance. After I achieve one goal, then I make a new goal.
Once I got serious, I started socking away 41% of my income.
My next move was to get to 50% of my income and eventually work my way up to a 75%
savings rate.
I have also noticed that high yield savings accounts rates
have gone up recently. There are accounts now paying over 2% interest. Thatโs
right. You can earn 2% just for parking your money. The more you save; the more
you earn. That is the same amount some people are receiving in annual raises
and cost of living increases!
Do not let anyone tell you that this is not possible. Forget
the naysayers. There is a saying that the elephant keeps walking as the dogs
keep barking. Do not let fear, others opinions, or lack of effort keep you from
reaching your goals.
You are the MVP on your Financial Freedom team. Go for the
goal. Always.
Financial independence is the ability to live from the income of your own personal resources. – Jim Rohn
Reading headlines in the news about how boomerang kids are returning home in droves is quite alarming.
When I was growing up, I saw lots of young adults leave home and never return. They got jobs and worked their way up to where they were trying to go.
However, a couple decades have changed all that.
One of the biggest culprits: student loans.
The cost of college has outpaced inflation. Therefore, it is now up to families to find affordable ways to get a college degree.
Otherwise, your kids may just end up back in your basement, or worse, in their childhood rooms that they could hardly keep clean when they were debt-free teenagers. Gulp!
The reason that so many millennial’s need parental assistance in paying their rent is because they shoulder the bulk of the $1.4 trillion in student loan debt.
However, borrowing or taking out deposits from the bank of Mom and Dad is not a good idea and can have lingering consequences for the parents as well as the kids and future generations.
Here are the reasons why young adults should stop relying on their parents and become independent as fast as they can.
FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE WILL TAKE LONGER TO REACH
We are living in a time when more people discuss this phenomenon called FIRE (financial independence retire early).
Although, this should be taken with a grain of salt, as many people will need to save 50% or more of their income for a decade or two to make this dream a reality. And that is not always possible or feasible to do, to say the least.
That being said, the decision is always yours whether or not you retire at 42 or 62. The point is to be able to one day have the option to retire.
When you lean on your parents (the Rents) to pay your bills, it can delay the transition into adulthood.
I have noticed when people have no safety net, they are a lot more resilient and cautious about what they do and spend.
For example, to rely less on Mom and Dad later in life as an adult, you could do the following:
Live with a couple roommates
Pick a smaller apartment to live in (say 700 square ft.)
Go without a car or at least buy a smaller, more affordable one
Commute to college and save by not paying room and board; therefore, requiring less or no student loans
It seems to be the people that get off their parentโs payroll ASAP are the ones that are able to become financially independent the fastest because they have no other choice.
When the only option is self-reliance, then you learn to live lean really quick. And low fixed expenses are how you will be able to start saving money.
A SUBSIDY SHOULD HAVEย LIMITS
For those that may not know, right now the Direct Stafford Loans offer a three-year subsidyย (you may have to ask your loan servicer if your loan has this feature) for students entering repayment.
Those funds give graduates time to find suitable employment and create a budget for their lifestyles in order to repay what they owe.
This cushion is a great way to help young people get on more solid financial footing.
What you may or may not have noticed is that there is a three-year window and then it closes shut.
And do you know why? It is because when you offer people a crutch, then unless they have the drive, perseverance, determination and the will to be self-sufficient, they are likely to use the crutch forever.
You have to limit aid, otherwise, people come to rely on it for all their days.
This includes the funds from your parents.
Get off their bankroll as fast as you can, or you may come to depend on it for the rest of your life.
Letโs be honest. Nothing lasts forever. Even milk, has an expiration date.
You would rather have the option of saying no than hearing the words: Weโre cutting you off.
RELYING ON SELF GETS BETTER RESULTS
I know that having help is at times necessary to keep a roof over your head. I would not tell parents not to help their children. I am asking children to tell their parents, that they no longer would like their financial assistance.
Therefore, you become the adult or hero in your own life and story.
If you read any number of stories about the rich and successful, you will notice that many did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but had just enough help to get things running and then go it alone.
When you allow someone to write you a check, you are also giving them some form of say so in your life. This de facto control you are giving up every time you cash that check, has far reaching and lasting consequences.
You may want to live in SoHo, but the parents say they are only willing to pay for something closer work or at a specific dollar amount. Thereby, giving them more control over your life.
When you write the check, you have all control. You say when, where, and how much.
No need to wait on anyone to give you the green-light or hand you the money. You can make decisions for yourself and might I add, faster than if you had to wait for help or other form of assistance.
Thereby, causing you to not miss opportunities because you can say yes without having to check in with anyone else.
You can say yes to that job, internship, business opportunity, apartment lease, car purchase, or vacation.
Just something to think about.
INDEPENDENCE IS ATTRACTIVE
Independence, especially financial independence, is attractive.
When you are an adult, you do not have to tell anyone you are one.
They can see it in your actions.
Are you out at the bar every night? Or are you at home, working on that new app your developing to earn enough money for a down payment on a house?
Do you spend with reckless abandon? Or are you cognizant of what you are spending, and where your money is going?
People are drawn to confident people. It is an attractive quality. They say like attracts like.
Nothing exudes confidence like someone who is in control of their money and time.
Are you looking for a partner? If so, ask yourself what qualities are you looking for in one.
For instance, do you want someone who buys everything in threeโs, likes to lease cars, and maxes out their credit cards every month?
If the answer is no, then you may want to make sure you are not doing any of those things as well.
Everyone wants to date up, but they forget that they too need to get themselves together in order to attract someone worthy of their time and vice versa.
When you are independent, people want to be around you. You attract jobs, opportunities, people, and money when you have your own.
GENERATIONAL WEALTH INTERFERENCE
The New York Times has reported that 40% f people in their early 20s receive financial assistance from their parents.
Parents are paying for everything from rent to car insurance.
The problem with this is that every dollar that parents give their children, is money that is not working for them in building their financial house and keeping it secure.
If parents have the money to give their children for a down payment or college education, then I am all for it. By all means, help the kids out.
However, what many kids may or may not know is that Mom and Dad cannot afford some of these expenses.
It is one thing to help someone with a one-time expense, like a down payment on a home.
It is another thing entirely to help pay someoneโs rent or mortgage every month with no end or deadline in sight.
Many baby boomers are going into retirement unprepared. Therefore, they usually do not have the funds to give the kids or grand-kids because they need that money themselves.
How do I know? Well, I ask people. And many have said that their are financesย precarious and funds are limited. Many give until it hurts. However, it not just hurts them, but also their heirs.
The Sandwich Generation is a generation of people who care for their aging parents while supporting their own children.
By not taking or limiting financial help from parents, it limits the help you may need to give your own parents when you are raising your kids.
Let me share with you this story for some perspective.
I read an article about a man who decided to become writer. While he did pretty well for himself, the family still struggled financially.
This is what happened during the course of their lives:
His wife quit working and became a stay at home mom
Their daughters were given the option to go to the private colleges of their choice, even though the family could not truly afford it
His father helped them pay for college for the kids; thereby, making him forfeit any future inheritance for him or his children for the sake of present conveniences
They also paid for their two daughters weddings out-of-pocket, with empty pockets
His wife has been out of the workforce so long she is unable to find reasonably paid work
He works 7 days a week
They have no savings and NO RETIREMENT
From the example above, you can see how paying for present pleasure or not planning for expenses can harm you and your family down the line.
This is scary stuff. Their inability to say no and set firm limits on what they were willing to spend has caused long-term consequences. They may have to rely on their children for financial assistance in their old age as opposed to passing on wealth.
I urge you to reconsider.
Let this post be your wake up call.ย A call to arms, if you will. A call to financial arms. To arm yourself with financial knowledge, so that nothing can stop you from working toward your goals and building a solid financial future; independently.